The gun shoots great for me. I am going to give it one more shot at the range with myself and another shooter from a solid rest. When I order blanks, I order from Christensen Arms, Red Hawk Rifles, CarbonSix and Bug Holes. This is an impressive debut for Daniel Defense, which is a newcomer to the high-end bolt-action rifle scene. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Sounds like you may be reading from too many fb pages. To expand a little on my previous post I can talk some about the customer service aspect of Christensen compared to what I know about Bergara. I can say with absolute certainty the CA barrels are not what they used to be. I have a Bergara LRP in 6.5 CM, It's been very good to me, I have about 1500 rounds down the tube now. I see the benefit of CF Barrels, and this, while disappointing, has not turned me off to them. ovc {0H zPT%O}'.^ MZ1"{t#&Vs Its always frustrating when youre having issues with a rifle. Who here has been behind both and if so what is your opinion if you had to choose between one or the other ? My 700 in a krg same thing. Uf5v'=$(@6X71p)i V(-^AQA-?sfg2 0.`dAdcEA? nAy0F10n # ZanF ' ), endstream endobj 21 0 obj <> endobj 22 0 obj <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/TrimBox[0.0 0.0 612.0 792.0]/Type/Page>> endobj 23 0 obj <> endobj 24 0 obj <> endobj 25 0 obj <> endobj 26 0 obj <> endobj 27 0 obj <> endobj 28 0 obj [/ICCBased 48 0 R] endobj 29 0 obj <> endobj 30 0 obj <> endobj 31 0 obj <> endobj 32 0 obj <>stream Or when you all are purchasing them are you buying blanks and having a gunsmith spin them up for you? The Mesa FFT utilizes an ultralight contour stainless steel barrel with a Cerakote finish, seamless removable radial muzzle brake, and is . They remove a lot of steel when profiling the barrel which induces stress in the barrel. Many people may have good experience with CA but it isn't worth the risk of getting one of these lemons. They are simply the best shooting carbon barrels we have tested to date. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. I was debating on a .338 Lapua (Savage, Christensen Arms, MPA, Sako, and custom build). I have been saving up for two years to purchaseone of your firearms. Thanks for any info. Broz, Your are correct. Off the bench, the Switch is one of the most accurate guns weve shot. Theres no such thing as an inaccurate Anschutzthe company makes some of the most accurate rifles in the worldso I wasnt surprised when it clustered bullets in ragged little holes on target. Fast response and helpful. Its not slowly unscrewing is it? This is a rifle that will passed down for generations. I spend two hours shooting Hornady 178 ELD Match. like no words Obviously certain guns don't run certain pills well, but at a 100 yards, you cant tell me a different grain is going to fix a 10! The bottom metal allows the rifle to utilize AICS magazines. 0000002423 00000 n The first day at the range I shot 1/2 and under at 100, with FACTORY 180 gr accubonds and 180 gr BT. I feel that Christensen rifles are of the highest quality and the best value out there. Never had this much of a problem with any of my guns wow i have the same cal . If I could sell this monstrosity and buy an MPA, or hell even another budget ass plastic ass Savage (I <3 my savage, no offense to you) Id do it in an instant. 0000012285 00000 n inch shift and a group I can't even measure. How durable are carbon fiber wrapped barrels? Obviously guns have a POI shift but it should be at least be repeatable or make some sense. I really appreciate this reply! Sent the rifles serial number and specifics to that rifle. and our Caliber. Hell, my 18" SPR ar15 within an inch all day prone with bag and bipod. The only x other issue I had was I got the manual for a MPR rifle instead of the ELR. Just sprayed all types of ammo. HUn@}W#H61. 0000013007 00000 n Meet the newest and most compact addition to our firearm lineup, ready for backpacking or back-country hunting. 0000011195 00000 n Picture of the gun below. 0000632180 00000 n You do not have access to www.brownells.com. Trigger: Single Stage, TriggerTech. SEE IT. Tolerance and modern milling means there is no need for a "break in" anymore. Nothing but good to say about all. What calibers if you dont me asking? I want to start off by saying I am no rookie when it comes to long guns. what cal and factory or reloads?? Action. My family has had an FFL for years. So dont be surprised to see these cartridges offered in a growing number of production rifles. reloads are rem brass fed primers 215m retumbo 92.0 gr berger 210 vlds. How are your barrels rifled? I will always admit when I dont know what I dont know; but occasionally it's something else. 2023 Christensen Arms. optics rail, and the TriggerTech trigger is a fantastic single-stage adjustable. These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. I've been using a TFM for PRS without issues like that, there's definitely something up with the barrel or the rifle in general that's making it do weird things. JavaScript is disabled. He is a very experienced shooter/reloader with many miles under his belt. Are my muzzle threads different? I forwent any break in as its (this will become relevant later) and began attempting to zero my rifle. 2023 Trustpilot, Inc. All rights reserved. When shooting matches I can economize by using the Am Gunner ammo for targets inside 500 and I do it with my ballistic app set for the Match ammo. I've had/have both and the XLR is so much better. OSOK if you don't mind me asking, how many barrels have you used? Like truly thought something was broken. Great guys to talk to and they seem to care. JavaScript is disabled. Would not hesitate to buy one. I usually shoot around MOA from this location. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Hunting whitetail or elk? The latest entrant in this field is the 6 GT, the brainchild of rifle builder George Gardner and Tom Jacobs, maker of Vaportrail bullets, and a world-class benchrest shooter. I love my gun but I always need a cheek riser. What are the thread measurements for your barrels? but there is an issue with the weapon. 0000002730 00000 n I would buy another. Ive contact all three companies involved and to make a long story short . This is due to outside of the barrel sleeves not being concentric with the bore. This review is the only one I have seen, and it seems that maybe CA has not gotten their carbon barrel tech quite to where they thought it was. Introducing: The Modern Precision Pistol FEATURED COMPONENTS SHOP OUR STORE #CHRISTENSENARMS STAY ARMED WITH UPDATES AND SPECIAL OFFERS My CTR same thing. Love the light weight. zbO+ 1q5->"~|PP326|cz`p7pha5? The communications and quick responses to my questions from Jeff, Kystren and Michelle made the purchase of of my rifle a great experience. 0000057435 00000 n 0000005104 00000 n First make sure that the barrel is clean and free of any oil or solvents from shipping or the manufacturing processes. The _ga cookie, installed by Google Analytics, calculates visitor, session and campaign data and also keeps track of site usage for the site's analytics report. This highly accurate, no-nonsense rifle is built around an excellent three-lug action that operates nearly effortlessly. At these speeds, it is easier to minimize the differences in muzzle velocity from one shot to the next. IMO CA having this policy on their website is just an out to allow them to brush off defects on to the owner. Mag., and .300 Win. I fell in love with this little rimfire the moment I brought it to my shoulder and dry-fired the 6-ounce trigger. Google Analytics sets this cookie to store the traffic source or campaign by which the visitor reached the site. The FFT spotter style stock weighs in starting at 5.5 pounds making it ideal on those long hikes up the mountain. Last time I talked to him he wasnt getting the results he was hoping for. 0000638363 00000 n Proof Research 338 Whisper Carbon Fiber Barrel - 1:9.4. Well, I was finally able to get out to the range again with the "Good Ammo" that I had on hand. Rude customer service and barrel deficiencies. It kept walking down. 0000004072 00000 n I was sorta on the fence on them, but have more confidence after reading all the positive reviews. to identify and resolve the problem. That is my experience shooting this rifle. I have definitely heard some horror stories about Christensen Arms, however the stories I have heard of were more related to chambering issues. You must log in or register to reply here. Like thats basic physics, pretty sure its called the thermodynamics Obviously hot barrels have a POI shift. The cookie is set by MailChimp to record which page the user first visited. 360 rounds down range and I get 1/3 to 1/5 groups at 100. I allowed for about a 10 minute break. The turnaround time was impressive, the work was not. Competing on PRS matches? These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. 0000638869 00000 n BOLT-ACTION. First, the Christensen Arms Mesa rifle has a 416R stainless steel barrel with a featherweight contour. Two in the last 2 weeks alone. Checked all hardware for proper torque. Many factors influence accuracy such as ammunition, conditions, shooter ability, etc. I was gearing towards Christensen and Sako, but decided to go custom. Nowhere closer to having any resemblance of a zero. I sure wish Bergara made something in 6.5 PRC. The site owner may have set restrictions that prevent you from accessing the site. Christensen Arms Mesa The Mesa was released in 2016, and much like the Ridgeline, it was an overnight success. You are using an out of date browser. One of the best Gunsmith, Consumer Services business at 550 Cemetery Rd, Gunnison UT, 84634 United States. The 6.5 PRC is a real pleasure to shoot. Most chamberings use a 22-inch, free-floated barrel (also potentially a 20", 24" or 26" barrel length depending on the caliber) that's button rifled. It is magnificent and dead on! I have a few factory rifles that will walk the POI as the shot count goes up, which really isn't that unusual, i's still minute of deer accuracy. It is a great $2000 paper weight. I proceeded to take it to my local indoor range to zero the rifle and chrono loads before taking it out to my outdoor thousand. Real world testing is what you will get here. All about money with next to 0 quality.. trash.. Remington 700 Std full length scope rail that I ordered does not fit any one of my 700's, short or long action. The front end of the barrel was ceracoated, the shade doesnt quite match. Thanks for the replies, and thanks for the welcome. The Creedmoor is the hottest cartridge on the Sign up for the Field & Stream newsletter and get the latest intelligence straight to your inbox. This with factory Norma 150 grain soft point ammo. I still say shooter error. I randomly attempted to purchase the item and I got it.Thank You. I am a bit less than pleased. At just under 7.5 pounds, it is super-portable and handy. UPC. The ones that didnt Were promptly taken care of. Even if it's hot as hell it should only open up a bit. Everyone Plenty of the CTR groups are walking all over too but not as bad as the 25 round group from the MPR. Please see pictures for more details. ergonomic platform featuring a palma stainless steel barrel along with a carbon fiber, composite stock. Wv[9k.Ji#2AlTJ-w]cs_Z vOjEA6XDNJCn,SS@1^m,7VSWO0&e'M,,m[k\nIDq${G%/kW= b*KBwe`, l *7f?2Kw65l[Nzf! I own 2 Christensen Rifles. On the other hand my match rifles don't shift POI during a 20 round string. It shoots Hornady 140 Match, 140 AM gunner and 143 Precision Hunter ammo into tight groups. Here LRO Editor Jeff Brozovich Takes a look at the Chriatesen Arms Carbon wrapped Barrel, CA Slayer Titanium Brake and the Carbon mag box options for the 30 . . Likely the barrel wasn't stress relieved prior to carbon fiber wrapping so the residual stresses are still there. Barrel: 16" 416R Stainless Steel Aerograde Carbon Fiber Wrapped. 0000024402 00000 n -; lY\Y? All Christensen Arms 1911 handguns have a 2" 5-shot 25-yard accuracy guarantee. Every one should own at least one Christensen rifle. So whats next? This situation is something else Ive never had an issue like this with any rifle I own from any manufacturer. I would imagine the whole process of bonding/wrapping the barrels, turning them, stress relief and other work going into it adds several compounding factors. They build them a lot better, and the list above proves it. Christensen Arms barrels are designed using precision engineering adopted from the aerospace industry; Christensen Arms Rem 700 compatible carbon-fiber barrels are crafted using a proprietary layered design that offers any marksman superior accuracy and performance. For more information, please see our This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. I bought a picatinny rail like the one on my new Ranger, because I need to make some modifications to accommodate a scope. Ya I had heard about the problems with the ridgelines, but I wasn't sure if they were carrying over to the other rifles or not cause there was some chatter about the Mesa's as well Sep 12, 2022 #4 Big Iron FNG Joined Live re barrel break in can minimize these problems and is much, much more fun! Would I normally shoot 20 rounds of anything back to back like that? For a listing of our Brownells Europe representatives. But it is a hell of a precision hunting rifle too. Tried hornady precision 143 eldx and 2 other brands of ammo. All of it was 140gr American Gunner. }VG-s@}M@foX{]omAzET;ghBPA_(#]X>hq5Q'g^`Fmz7OxC.,/GeBAE;V;@ endstream endobj 177 0 obj <>stream Please keep us updated. Not fan boy garbage and bashing to be cool and fit in with the haters. With a 26-inch barrel, oversize muzzle brake, and stout chassis stock, it hits the scales at 11 pounds 12 ounces empty. Cookie Notice Thanks for the review. The only factory ammo I could find. I want to start off by saying I am no rookie when it comes to long guns. Always sold out online. The weight is somewhat average/light for a standard, pencil or light profile barrels. Requested URL: www.brownells.com/gun-parts/rifle-parts/rifle-barrels-parts/bolt-action-6.5-creedmoor-carbon-fiber-barrel, User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 15_3_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/15.3 Mobile/15E148 Safari/604.1. Have cycled ammo in magazine through the rifle with no issues. These representatives will help ease the extensive licensing and shipping complications associated with purchasing products from our U.S. website. Mag. Best Group: .200 in. The barrels spiraling is visually distinctive, and the trigger breaks crisply at 2 pounds 5 ounces. I would regularly receive notices that the item I wanted was available - but when I attempted to purchase the item - the same day - it was "out of stock". Twist Rate: 1:8. They seem willing to help, but are not the sharpest tools in the shed. Wrap a bad barrel and it is still bad. I have three currently and had 6 others. Have any of you tried the short chamber offerings in these barrels? Pretty disappointed with service. 3 ROUNDS. HlK0EZB"%Jxk0P;@v{8q"@?oM|s yO"EU7-=QKK.~H_wmT^zi #jWcyD"}ea2CJT)>EBUS1J_^QFplr2 Find Reviews, Ratings, Directions, Business Hours, Contact Information and book online appointment. In the website, its not very clear that I could actually buy a zero-degree rail (duplicating the one it came with), so I had to call customer service. I'm no competitive shooter, but I know more than a thing or two about guns. I own several nice firearms and the quality of this Christensen is heads and shoulders above any of my other guns. Perhaps it was missed, but between 2 outings it has been fired quite a bit by myself and another shooter. 3 RANGER 22 STRUCTURE MODEL . Has anyone who owns a Christensen Arms rifle had a problem with them grouping poorly? It makes the toughest targets seem like chip shots. wildcat455 Well-Known Member Joined 0000008307 00000 n Add to Cart. The action is very very nice to cycle. Bryan Litz from AB did some extreme testing of carbon barrels for heat related issues and CA was the winner. G endstream endobj 178 0 obj <>stream Every company can have stuff come out with issues, it's how they stand behind it that matters. VXS|+]7 CAs recommends a "barrel break in" that is completely ridiculous. 691328237713. At this point I'm going to email christensen. The Proof barrels Ive seen shoot lights out, as good as any custom tube. Please see my other auctions for more rare, hard to find barrels and scopes!" Is there a difference between the barrels used for your 1/2 MOA rifles versus your Sub-MOA rifles? Do I need to break in my barrel? Maybe not a big deal but thought it was worth mentioning. Finish, fit and machining are excellent. Will update sometime next week when I get to the range. The response was within minutes and was absolutely spot on. I am not surprised. It's heat soak Like all these reports of heat issues with CA barrels are completely true. This cookie is installed by Google Universal Analytics to restrain request rate and thus limit the collection of data on high traffic sites. Take on the toughest hunts with our most popular hunting rifle. Sorry. They are great barrels. I had the action accurized, timmey trigger and brake. The large cluster of shots was at the end of the day. The contour is my favorite and I have had great accuracy with it this last year. . i've had problems with my boys but that issue was the feed ramp. I see that undocumented and unsupported garbage too. Those are the two offerings I have found so far anyway. The cylindrical machined titanium action is mated to a Christensen Arms 416R stainless steel, featherlight contour, bead-blasted barrel with removable stainless steel radial brake. In Stock. Snow is Shooting Editor of Outdoor Life, where he oversees the publications firearms and shooting coverage. Sent back to them for warranty work. Who makes the barrels for them, or are they built completely inhouse? These cartridges are engineered to get bullets off to the best possible start by making sure the projectile is oriented as straight as possible in relation to the bore, which is done via steep shoulder angles, a minimal case taper, and tight throat dimensions. Christensen Arms Reviews 374 Excellent 4.6 VERIFIED COMPANY christensenarms.com Visit this website Write a review total 1-star 5% Filter Sort: Most relevant Larry Argo 2 reviews US Feb 19, 2023 Bought a Mesa in 7mm rem mag Bought a Mesa in 7mm rem mag. The Traverse weighs in starting at 7.3 pounds and is backed by the Christensen Arms Sub-MOA Guarantee. . I would try a different scope before I blamed the rifleI agree with Cory - You can not accurately draw the conclusion you have from the targets you have shown. I went from defending Christensen Arms, to urging people to never buy one of these rifles. Like I said before Christensen seems like they produce a high quality product and I would expect nothing less from them, this thread in no way would keep me from purchasing anything from them, other than im a little on the fence on there carbon barrels. 0000003959 00000 n send it back it has a quarantee. Spoke with Christensen today. The bottom plate doesnt appear to have been replaced, there are still traces of the dark discoloration visible. But truly I wouldn't even be able to bring myself to dump this garbage off on someone else. i cant remember is this their match grade barrel. In the end, I got what I needed, but I wouldnt say it was an enjoyable process.. I ordered a muzzle brake for my Christensen .300 ultra mag. I followed it up with Christensen Rings and base. 0000003055 00000 n I hope they take good care of you and resolve this quickly. They made me feel a bit foolish for not knowing that there was an option for that, a couple menus deeper. I have a 300 RUM i bought a few years ago (before the ridge line introduction), and it shoots well and consistent out to 1000 yards. 0000000016 00000 n For minor things Christensen Arms also can authorize qualified dealers to handle issues themselves provided the dealer is willing and there aren't costs associated with it. I mounted a Razor ii in a Spuhr unimount. That being said, I see that a lot of people are commenting on the CS of Christensen Arms, good or bad this concerns me that they even have to call CS in the first place. The __utmv cookie is set on the user's device, to enable Google Analytics to classify the visitor. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. The barrel lining is made from match-grade 416R stainless steel . I have defended CA's, before I even shot this rifle, in this subreddit. I am an unabashed fan of the Fix, and the MPR is Fix'ish, while being a little warmer to the touch for cold weather hunting. But they have all shot really well so take that as you will. Privacy Policy. I wonder if Christensen would do it. Eurooptic is full of crap. When they first started they would wrap any barrel. If you are experiencing accuracy . It does not store any personal data. I see nothing beneficial from getting a barrel scorching hot. The best I own.The products are exactly what they say they are. The result of all it is better accuracy. 0000005974 00000 n Once clear, fire 2 three-shot groups. A few days later, I went into The Armories in Winter Garden Florida and purchased a Christensen Arms rifle.

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