Powered by Invision Community, Brodie Steel trench helmet Identification marks, Upcoming changes to logging in - click here, GWF is free to use so please support the Forum. WW1 BRITISH BRODIE Helmet SOMME relic - 60.00. He said it has a separate rim and a serial number of ZA57. . It is unknown what is any maker marks these companies used. Unfortunately, your registration has been declined by the auctioneer. It also is interesting that the British kept the Brodie Helmet while the US went to the M1 for better protection. Palace of Westminster Home Guard cap badge. Antique World War II helmet stamped and dated 1942 Canadian Army Brodie helmet made by General Steel Wares of Toronto shopatlanticcanada (133) $191.29 Vintage WWII Army Helmet 1940s Canadian Brodie MKII WyrembelskisVintage (1,643) $165.00 vintage army metal doughboy helmet IronCharlie (31) $345.00 FREE shipping Clment. HOW TO IDENTIFY A WW1 BRITISH BRODIE STEEL HELMET FROM A WW2 - YouTube I would say the paintwork on your helmet is original. The cover was made from the same type of cloth the sand bags the held up the trench wall were made of. He worked in WhiteHall prior to the war as a chartered surveyor. Progressive Knitting Works - Brooklyn - New York. Brodie helmet | Military Wiki | Fandom Here you go Kenny, on closer inspection it looks like the last letter is probably a B. worked in or simply that he worked in a department in a parliamentary house, it's speculative at best I know ?. U.S. P17 chinstrap bail 6 Reserve Lorry Park Royal Air Force who died 28/02/1919 BELGRADE CEMETERY Belgium ' I think I'll be doing more Vietnam stuff. It wasundoubtedly a welcomerelief from having the helmet constantly bounce up and down on the top of the wearer skull while running across no mans land. Helmets and Headgear. The American M1917 helmet shells were pressed and stamped into bowl shapes by 7 company's they were. There is also a drill hole on rear of the brim. Also on the remains of the liner there should also be a date/maker name. Eventually all his knowledge will be distilled in a book. The British cleverly dealt with this problem by issuing their men with a Hessian cloth cover. Most American helmet do have heating lot numbers. Original WW II British Hats & Helmets for sale | eBay A British Brodie 'Tommy' steel helmet with net and leather lining. Leinster Regiment who died 27/02/1918 JERUSALEM MEMORIAL Israel and Palestine (including Gaza) ' Often American GIs used the steel cap from the M1 as a rudimentary entrenching tool to dig these foxholes. F Thomas Firth and Sons Sheffield 1916 1918, FS Thomas Firth and Sons, Sheffield sept. 1915 1919, HS Hadfields Ltd. jan. Sheffield 1916 1919, BS W Beardmore & Co. Ltd. jan. 1916 1919, A Edgar Allen and Co.Sheffield Ltd 1916 1918, HH Harrison Bros. & Howson Ltd. dec. 1915. During the State Opening of Parliament in 1942 they formed a guard of honour for the King in the Royal Gallery and in that same year were inspected by Churchill. Manufacturing Co - Philadelphia - Pennsylvania. First questions and then the story. It was made of mild steel originally, but this was quickly dispensed with and a harder type of steel was introduced alloyed with manganese, a mixture known as Hadfield Steel after its developer, the English metallurgist, Sir Robert Hadfield. It seems to happen frequently. You can post now and register later. and Gen. Hos. As for the number/letter code, that is the code for the manufacturer and the manufacturer's lot number. To avoid a smooth reflective finish a small amount of river gravel was mixed into the paint. JOHN THE BAPTIST, LAWRENCE AND ANN) CHURCHYARD United Kingdom ' I bought a M1 Vietnam era helmet through mail order surplus years ago and turns out they grabbed me a very collectable M1C paratrooper helmet. Liner Fibre M-1. Imperial Russian Adrian helmet. While the US Manufacturers developed their own M1917 helmet and got production, up to speed, very few of the M1917s made it to the Western Front before the Armistice. The American bail is made from 12 gauge iron wire. Identifying a Mk.1* British Civil Defence Brodie. - War Relics var mydate=new Date() Few military helmets, whether in modern times, or further back, have the distinction of being used in over ten major wars. It was made of 'Hadfield steel', which could withstand the impact of some shrapnel. There should not be a threaded nut. The doughnut was added for the wearers comfort. Brodie helmets - How to identify - Uniforms,Cap Badges and Insignia I would leave the chin strap that is original, it's up to you what you want to do, with the helmet shell, it would have had an originalBMB liner dated the same as the shell, but I've seen BMB helmets with other maker. 2nd Bn. I am also unsure whether he began workingin Parliament before or after the war, i will be able to tell you tomorrow though. Royal Marine Light Infantry who died 17/03/1918 BELLAVISTA OLD BRITISH CEMETERY Peru ' Firth & Sons. As a result, it was estimated that the M1 had saved the lives of approximately 70,000 men between the outbreak of the war in late 1941 and its conclusion in the autumn of 1945. The chinstrap was secured directly to the helmet brim and the liner was held into the skull with a single rivet on the top. The PASGT helmet was a new generation of combat helmet, being made from nineteen layers of Kevlar, a light-weight synthetic fibre material which offered higher levels of protection than the manganese-steel alloy from which the M1s had been manufactured. The final push in using the Brodie was a variant which was produced in 1936 and which saw widespread service by the Norwegians during the German invasion of their country in the spring of 1940 and by the British Expeditionary Force in France several weeks later. Vimyridge23 April , 2010 in Uniforms,Cap Badges and Insignia. http://www.cefresearch.com/phpBB2/index.php, Here is a reply from Roger Lucy, who wrote the book TIN LIDS, "In his article on the Mk.I in Militaria # 6, July, 1994, the British helmet guru, Marcus Cotton, suggests that FKS probably stands for Thos. The British 'Tommy' Thus, in one guise or another it shaped the design of military helmets all over the world for much of the twentieth century. The real beardy types, anoraks and train spotters would only consider the type A and B as true Brodies. WW1 US AEF Unit Flashed Brodie Combat Helmet & Liner 374540440490 First thing is to see if you can figure out the unit emblem on the helmet. Awesome, thanks for the replies. I don't think FKS has been definitively pinned down, but most sources say it represents Firth & Sons Ltd. liners in them, so it would not matter if you were to put an other makers liner in it as long as it's the same date as the shell. If its a split rivet that holds the bails in place, its Brit. By 1916, Brodie helmet . While British and American helmets may be painted similar colors the finishes on the two type of helmet differ. I am trying to work out what the markings are/ what they mean. I too have seen dates on these lugs most often the way your pictures show them. Powered by Invision Community, US WW1 and WW2 Brodie Helmets and Maker Stamps. O Gauge garden model railway The Brodie helmet, nicknamed after it's designer, John Brodie, was Britain's answer in 1915 to the disproportionate number of head wounds by troops at the front. Capac = Capac Manufacturing Co - Michigan. What to Look for When Buying a WWII M1 Helmet (Beginner's Guide) Follow on Instagram, The British Mark I Brodie & the U.S. P17, know the difference, M42 winter camo. whitman75 6 years ago. 5th Bde. Here is an image ( sorry for bad quality) colour is the paint finish of the helmet, in the photo it looks blue/grey ?. Available in two sizes: ABB9300-1 58 cm, US 7 (Small) ABB9300-2 61 cm, US 7 5/8 (Large) A note on sizing, larger size liner may protrude slightly from the bottom of the helmet. Pasted as rich text. dailyinfo[26]=' Chaplain 4th Class The Rev. M1 Helmet Identification; Shipping; Sizing; 1-877-862-5245; TOP POTS - DEDICATED TO M-1 HELMET PRESERVATION. Worcestershire Regiment who died 23/02/1915 LOKER CHURCHYARD Belgium ' He was in his early forties when the war broke out and he turned his attentions to developing a military helmet along the lines that the French had just produced with the Adrian helmet. By DizzyDeano96 12 months ago. Heavily distressed #re, Specters in the Snow, the story of Finlands Skeleton Helmet, Sinister in Black, the Pre-War Helmet of the SS, The German helmet of the Normandy Campaign, The Tsars French Helmet, the Imperial Russian Adrian, Visiting the Baltic with Alexander & Sons, Understanding WWII German helmet insignia, Whats inside, German helmet liners 1920-1940, Geronimos helmet, a short history of the U.S. M2, A Short History of the German Steel Helmet of the Great War. var month=mydate.getMonth()+1 dgirardin 11 months ago. dailyinfo[25]=' 262952 Private Archibald Stanley BURGNEAY 8th Bn. if it is red underneathit could have been. There were at least six British helmet manufactures and nine steel suppliers. As the use of the helmet spread it became known by several other names, including the shrapnel helmet, the battle bowler (owing to its resemblance to a bowler hat), the Tommy helmet (owing to its employment by American troops), the tin hat and the doughboy helmet, doughboy being a widely used name for American infantrymen during the First World War. Hi! What I know so far, He was injured in France in 1940 so was 'dropped' from active service. dailyinfo[2]=' 8020 Serjeant Charles POOLE "C" Coy. Why I speak of our Canadian Great war forumyou know, us Canadians? Im thinking about making a visit to the Imperial War Museum in London to show one of their specialists as it seems to be hard to find information about it. Steel Helmet, Brodie "War Office" pattern: British Army var year=mydate.getYear() Generally soldiers were still being issued cloth caps or leather headgear of a kind which offered little or no protection from modern artillery and the shrapnel which sprayed out from it. So a large number of Americandough boyswore British made helmets though out their service in France. After the war he was, as prior stated, he held a very high position and worked in surveying land and buildings for military purposes, including Goonhilly which was his most famous and he even chose that name. This dilemmaseems to become particularly problematic for the British reenactors who after spending hundred of dollars on their kit accidentally purchase an American helmet because they dont know the difference, or for collectors who want one or the other represented in their collection. dailyinfo[7]=' Lieutenant Thomas Sydney Ough DEALY Australian Flying Corps who died 07/03/1918 STONYHURST COLLEGE BURIAL GROUND United Kingdom '