Your word is TRUTH God. Everything was done with excellence and professionalism. Unfortunately it will just increase as the church continues to elevate personal revelation above scripture. People saved, people healed, marriages restored etc etc. David Wilkerson left the Assemblies of God because their requirements for ordination were too strict. I hope this encourages anyone that has been disillusioned by the Pentecostal Churches of today and that you will not lose your faith but seek out a place of believers where you are more comfortable and once again enjoy the fellowship of the Spirit of Truth. than I was, and longed to be where they were. They may leave out repetitive "hallelujahs,' "we worship you Lord" and/or "praise God almighty" and then save the Amen until the end of their prayer. I can honestly say it felt like the bottom dropped from under me, and I didnt know what to believe anymore. Pray continually! God bless. But I just wanted to clarify things at least in my own understanding. MacArthur has valid points. We studied the bible and i heard and saw we are Gods family; brothers and sisters. Thank you for the oppertunity to share and to see that there are quite a number of people in the same boat as I! Nothing I could ever do That's why Jesus said. His word is the Truth. Going to church every sunday, praise and worship, listen to a scripture and go home again. I thank God for Martian Luther who saw corruption in the church then nailed the 95 theses to the door of Wittenberg Castle Church. karpfmichael@hotmail.com, Pastor John MacArthur conducted a Bible conference on the charismatic movement a few years ago called Strange Fire. I think you would appreciate it! The folks who really needed healing the most--the cancer patients, But it doesnt make Gods wonderful grace and gifts any less relevant today. 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It put an enormous focus on the gifts of the spirit such as speaking in tongues/prophecy and how we were the Elijah generation and we would walk in signs and wonders and how that would cause this great revival. When we make sure we are doing the right thing, we wont have so much time finding people who do the wrong thing. Why I Left the Indian Pentecostal Church - Medium and leaders assumed that a guilty conscience was keeping me away from church. Spend time with the Lord, in a group or on your own doesnt matter, the focus is on my Beloved, not the people around me. A strong delusion falls on them because they dont love the truth. In Acts the believers were connected to eachother. What Is An Ex-Pentecostal? Christianity FAQ Now, I agree 100% that true Biblical teaching will not contradict the Word of God. ABBA IS CALLING US OUT OF BABYLONHIS TRUE REMNANTreturning to HIS WAYS, HIS INSTRUCTIONS(TORAH), HIS FEASTS, HIS SHABBAT. The Pentecostal scholars I admired almost all left their Pentecostal denominations because they felt marginalized by suspicion that their scholarship was a head trip that made their hearts cold. Jesus is pulling a lot of out. While so many of these are not the essentials or the fundamentals of the faith there is a point when its time to cry foul on some of the things taking place in our assemblies. I was going through the motions. In my mind, God was now I am the church, and while I do want to seek out fellowship with others as this too is a Biblical principal and we are told not to forsake it, I cant help but to feel lost as where to go next. The charismatic movement of the past quarter-century has made an impact on the church unparalleled in history. Its strong delusion and it will only become MORE apostate and MORE evident. A lot of things that is said to be the Holy Spirit moving is nothing but the Flesh, Carnality and Recognition of self! God was treated like a genie in a bottle many times in church services. There is a lot of things I can say about the false teaching of Calvinism and the murderous acts of John Calvin. We need to be rooted and grounded in the Word to stand regardless of what some else does or does not do. It is simply this: Becoming Apostolic Pentecostal, Backsliding, and Coming There's a flipside to believing that God will Another great testimony. or show up and let everyone see how badly I had failed in my faith. When I say false teaching I mean heresy, not non essential doctrines which have no bearing on salvation. changed. So I always preach expositionally just like Dallas Theological Seminary taught me too. I dare not trust the sweetest frame, but wholly lean on Jesus name. I began seeing some very strange disturbing manifestations during our services where people were flopping all over each other, going into trances, acting like they were giving birth, making animal noises, and on occasion even rolling out of their clothes. He is my all in all! Praise Godanother life freed from that bondage from hell. Pentecostalisms Dark Side Religion Online His word is enough for us. These new revelations are being held in high regard by leaders with lots of influence and taught without resistance to MILLIONS, It has filtered into mainline denominations. I feel burn out on it and I think thats normal. I know Presbyterian minister who fell into adultery. really had zero conviction. I encourage you to dig deeper into the origins and founders of Pentecostal theology and where the 7 Mt. Should Christians live the gospel? Certain pastors and leaders were held up as heroes in Jesus Christ is the Cornerstone that holds the structure altogether. The basic precepts of a Spirit-filled life are 100% biblical, but Word-Fatih, NAR, and other deviancies replaced these distinctives with utter garbage and the teachings of the Nicolaitans, teachings which God hates.. Thank you for voicing it. I have my antennas up with being so new coming back into the body /church. I thought I did at times, but whenever the pain In that moment I said God Im singing these words to you but I dont mean it; help me to mean it And he did. Im ready to leave here and see Heaven and Eternity. I begrudgingly turned round. When people get hurt they tend to throw the whole thing out. When i saw Mr Johnson breathing like that after being prayed over earlier this week and the young man did the same thing I immediately saw a pattern. But long ago I determined in my heart and mind that if all forsake Christ or go astray I will not be one of them. Mark, yes, some of the Sola Scriptura folk are Calvinist and/or Cessationists. WebI left because a lot of their beliefs are unbiblical and sadly rooted in contradiction. and it will lead you into much folly. missing it so I could "fix" whatever it was and live in His blessing again. We should humbly approach his throne with fear and trembling and bring our request before him by prayer and supplication. What seemed to be happening in my mind was a church that was trying to keep alive a spirit of pentecost and all that goes with it. Blessings, Thank you. I have had several dreams believing they were from God but after my chaotic experience I have questioned whether they were or not. do. I pleaded with God to show me where I was Why did you leave the Pentecostal church? | Christian So, He took my support structure away, I join prayer groups from time to time, but mostly I am on a solitary path. A girl with a similar story. I was in the Air Force living in Germany when God got a grip of my heart through an amazing family who partnered with The Navigators. God has been so good and so gracious to meI dont deserve any of it! I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. I will be in Dallas, Texas for the first 3 weeks in January. They taught we were the special generation that would usher in the return of Christ. You NEVER saw this happen and to this day I've heard a couple stories of similar miracles but no actual proof. In the end, it is always the misinterpretation of the Bible. Just the one that suits will do me. Sorry you had bad experiences in Pentecostal circles. A God-fearing church. Being hurt, seeing confusion in the life of my friends lead me back to God. When I hear that hyped up exegesis Gospel now I can easily discern that it is not biblical and it simply does not line up with scripture. Sorry for your bad Church experiences you and your family have encountered. I grew up mainly in the Presbyterian church (with my mom) and occasionally attended the Pentecostal church (with my dad during his visitation). I began to see what seemed like little miracles every day. I left the CC in 81to go to an AOG church for five years. hated. rules, then that was a small price to pay. But these days if you are not in the same church you dont really belong to me. Why I Left the Pentecostal/Charismatic Movement YMMV, What a wonderful summary of how God has been leading you into His truth and light. There are days that I feel extremely frustrated, angry and then there are days that Im OK and thats just a part of healing from being in a radical fridge movement. Loved your post and I cannot thank you enough for posting it! This isnt a matter of interpretation, its a matter of the truth and lies. There were But I didn't get it right next time, or the time after that, or the time after that. 1. genuinely cared about each other. It looked and felt like a big show. This I know, that if your relationship with God is where it ought to be, you will be Christ like and God will straighten out your doctrine and get you on the right path. I just want to know the bible as intended. Mind you he left me sitting in a worship service for 45 minutes to chat with another girl that he ended up dating weeks later. were brass.". Consider Jacob who wrestled with God. She went to Israel with her daughter five months after leaving and decided it was okay to date while she was there. God why was I deceived? because I had done some pretty stupid things in my time. Thankyou to those who put Jesus first and do the job the Lord has called them to! It sounds good but not God is the way I would describe it. Thank you, thank you, thank you! It was the same people all the time and I could almost quote their syllables verbatim when they started jibbering. I agonized over what I might be doing wrong. You are using an out of date browser. Im in a bit of a situation right now. Discipleship is the keystone that is missing in our churches. But the real proof would have been a real miracle where someone re-gained their site or a deformed limb was restored. more mainstream Pentecostal church. were many who volunteered their time, but paid staff members handled the bulk of the responsibilities. Really, all believers have the Holy Spirit and should be led by the Spirit of God and not by people saying I have a word for you. Her dress is dirty and torn and she is not excited about her groom anymore, only about her jewellery, but she remains the bride. The As a Minister, it infuriates me that Pastors do not use discernment and that some allow things that are not of God in the Church. I guess I shouldnt be surprised that my testimony resonates with so many people. He wasn't just something I talked about anymore. Over the course of 30 days, some wonderful Christians inside the jail (other inmates) grabbed ahold of me and poured out God's love and encouragement on me. God loves you very much. Mike bickle said that prophets were operating at at 70-80% accuracy rate? Ive been a Christian 34 years, 25+ years in Ministry. I would allow time to pass and felt I had to start all over again. I could not take it anymore and had to leave. I dreaded that conversation more than a whole mouth full of root canals. I love Justin peters and John MacArthur It really helped me. (I think that all Christians do) However, wanting that can make people that usually have a high level of discernment vulnerable and gullible. Generation X marks the spot was the trending evangelical phrase in those days. I longed to be closer to God. However, we (humankind) have been adapting scripture to modern cultural practices as time as progressed using parallels to compare equivalent circumstances. Like any other addict, I was always looking for an opportunity to get my next "hit." The musicians and leaders had done the same. Once I got over being mad & looking for dirt on Bethel I prayed for discernment and was led to 1 John 4. Jesus said the Holy Spirit would teach us and bring to remembrance things He said. Light Skinned Women Are Like A Drug To Me. My grandfather was a pastor and we went to church every day. www.bassfishing.org Confess with your mouth and believe with your heart, which will result in fruit. You need both. I thought are these people trained to do this or is this just the dark spirit manifesting itself. Hi, I have a question. And you will make a difference for good in the kingdom of God. Greet believers at church. I picked myself up and eventually found someone wonderful. You are NOT alone and as deception continues to increase in Churches, God will bring more out. At times, I wondered if people had really been miraculously healed or if they were Todd Bentley during this was in a sexual affair w/ a woman in the ministry. I live in Bangkok and most churches are like this. (LogOut/ Cool Dress I saw in episode of Somewhere Street on NHK-Japan Ready-to-Drink Starbucks Pink Drink Coming Soon to Grocery Shelves Nationwide. that may have been intended for someone else. - Does God still give revelation? There was constant talk of apostles and prophets that God was raising up in these last days. In the evenings I attend a CofE church. We would immediately check and test everything against the word of God like the Bereas, who weighed and tested mens teachings of that day to the standard of Gods word. Any more than Homosexuality in the Church started with the United Methodist Church. Let me tell you what type of disillusionment that sets a young person up for. My faith was I certainly dont see myself as the pot calling the kettle black only a woman sharing her testimony. I had previously thought I was already Spirit-filled because I was a believer. of knowledge") straight from God, not just for themselves but for those in their churches. That makes me laugh, yesssss it was soooooo LONG!! WebThe Pentecostal movement began with a desire to be intentionally non-denominational and unaffiliated. Love is a scarce commodity to find in churches and Ive sat in them for 21 years.scarce.Youare considered judgmental, divisive and condemned for stirring up dissension among the brethren which is them taking scripture completely out of context to stay unaccountable, complacent and feeling good about their extreme idol worship. Neither do I. Micheal I never said that. According to most Sola Scriptura folk, a good many of whom are Calvinist/Cessationists, if it isnt in the bible then it isnt right. I am happy for you and He will keep through everything. Divine impressions, dreams, and revelations. Why Leave Egypt, leave the baggage and go into the desert. They make a big deal out of tongues. (2 Tim 3:16-17). Chic-fil-a sauce, Wendys sauce, McDonalds special Big Mac sauce. He didnt put them in people. So the problem is not a movement but people who are either not saved, or they are deceived or sin abounds letting junk in. Satan seems to be able to infiltrate our dreams at times. church, most of the staff and a significant percentage of the congregation left & were replaced by others. I am not alone! I pray the Lord will open many eyes within the pentecostal movement to rightly see his precious truth which does indeed bring liberty and true freedom. Paul wrote to all the believers in one town. 10 Then the brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea. This book tackles such questions as - Is experience a valid test of truth? Miracles. I left a charismatic church myself in 1979 despite the warnings that Satan is trying to keep me from what God has. I currently attend these services and have never seen such a loving group of people that are determined to adhere to bible principles and demonstrate true brotherly love as God instructs. Talking correctly was WebMerely being a member of the Society for Pentecostal Studies often brings a Pentecostal scholars commitment to the movement into question. If we truly belong to God he will lead us out. this one, that I would wind up sick and possibly even die because I was outside of God's will. I didn't Im so sorry to hear about your experience. Pentecost is biblical and the things practised in charasmatic/pentecostal churches are find in the bible. But that night never I am older and wiser. it will disturb you and send you sounding the alarm. And Paul said that's not even the best gift. Everything from modern day apostles and prophets, signs and wonders, women in leadership, all spiritual gifts exist or only a portion exist today, social gospel/social justice, market place ministry (We Love Our City), 7 mountain mandate and on and on. We are Christians that worship on the seventh day of the week. It sees this gratitude as humiliating and oppressive. Thank you for your comment. I am not part of this movement and never have been, but its the system of the church that feels broken and like a formula to me. Some very specific "prophetic words" were simply forgotten or ignored without commentary when This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? So if someone is claiming to be Christian and believe in the same bible I believe in, why preach whats not in the Bible, especially being that the Bible speaks about how that is wrong and to also beware of false prophets. One woman who claimed to be an evangelist was leading those meetings, and I remember her stopping, and with an evil laugh said Oh Lord, please keep it clean as if the Holy Spirit would ever make people do something unclean! Why I Have Left the Assemblies of God the faith. Im so glad to be free! Bless you as you too continue to seek His face! There wasn't the same sort of "exclusive club" feeling. Even the supernatural aspects had lost Christ is coming, be in His work! I still pray but Ive come to understand we must hold fast what is good and the greatest testimony is simply obeying His word regardless of the goosebumps. mostly on evangelising. Why I Never Went Back to the Pentecostal Church The definitions that helped me understand what was happening are exegesis verses eisegesis please look it up. I do know how you feel. Praise God. Wow Puresola this was my story. God help us and anoint us with His Holy Spirit to make a difference for the Kingdom and in this world. May the Lord continue to lead and guide you by His Word. Three years ago I went to a revival in a church and, for the first time ever queued to get in. Still, what is spoken must not go against the Scripture otherwise it is not of God. Its a cult, mixing faith and law to keep you saved. Many Ministers pray, seek the Lord, read and study the word with a passion of the love of Christ. I am a non-denominational evangelist who simply calls himself a New Testament Christian. Let me know in the comments below your encounters with false prophets!https://orthodoxwiki.org/NestorianismI want to clarify I do not believe in praying in tongues anymore so I will make a video on thatI am also not charismatic anymore, I am soft (not hardcore) cessationist. We were making some When I joined the church, I had signed a "covenant" where I promised, among other things, to speak to the leadership We can only know God properly by His Word, not feeling, emotion or some experience. We should actually share deep stuff adn walk this road together but the system does not allow us to grow closer to Eachother. Hi Dave, I found when I left the traditional church, i did not immediately join another church. Nationally known guest speakers visited from time to time. For example some people get bent out of shape if you believe in a pretrib rapture and think you ate a heretic. I began to wonder if the things I had loved about my previous church were inextricably connected to the things that I They prophesied that they saw my moms brain cells starting to multiply, but of course we had to do our part, which involved extreme fasting, and money ( it always involves money for these evil wolves!). They reminded me of all the mistakes I had made during my time at the church and they didn't have to exaggerate, As Michael has stated on this blog (and I paraphrase), the church is full of people. diagnose my spiritual shortcomings. Only the blood of Jesus Christ saves. It was time to join a more conservative group of Christians and yet still enjoy the fellowship of the Spirit. I always thought the verse in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 was peculiar. Lovely married couple, FGM in Sierra Leone: I believe my girlfriend died because her genitals were cut. I prayed desperately for my own The seats were empty! Long story short, my life was turned completely around. Amen to that, Michael. so much back there wasn't God at all. The Lord's church dates back to 33 AD when the 12 disciples received the "Baptism of the Holy Spirit." Words from an old Hymn: My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus Blood and Righteousness. The Holiness Movement: Are They God For the first time, a man has won the women's Tour of the Gila. Hope your doing well, Thank you for sharing. While all this chaos is going on around me another lady I was attending church with began dating a man because God told her he was the one. We did a bible study. People interpret things differently from the next. They seemed so solid, so convinced, absolutely unshakeable. God does speak to our heart and can speak through another brother or sister to us. I have studied deeply in my time in the wilderness , prostrate on my face before Jesus and the Word of God. Today I don't believe tongue speaking to hold any real value for the benefit of believers or non-believers. It discerns the intentions of the heart. Thanks. If more Christians were influential in these areas would we have a more godly society? everything was OK. Thank God Amighty, I am free at last!. Today Im more of an agnostic Christian. just as important (or perhaps even more important) than believing correctly. They do as the bible says to feed the flock not scatter bring them in. It was prophesied that I was going to get promoted at that job and certain things would happen that never did. Thanks for watching :)Instagram- PatriciaafigxFacebook- Patricia Figueroa Email- Patriciafig0301@gmail.com If youre really looking for truth I would encourage you to visit http://www.jw.org.

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